Danger Ace , May 1, Qonundrum likes this. Joined: Apr 19, Admiral Archer and ChallengerHK like this. Joined: May 10, Location: The visitor's bullpen. That's one of my favorite scenes in the whole film. I don't know why the theatrical and DE cuts removed it. It requires no effects, after all Laser Beam , May 1, The VHS version corrected that. Also, when Epsilon Nine is monitoring the fight between V'ger and the Klingons, their computer shows the fight on one screen, on the other a printout of the computer's spoken words.
An old 4x3 TV picture could only show one screen. ABC showed the computer's words, the home video release showed the screen with the Klingons. As for "stuff from the cutting room floor" and "unfinished sets", in one extended scene the latter is true It doesn't stand out in my opinion.
The rest of the extended scenes are screen-worthy in every way. They just make for alternate presentations of scenes. I never realized the longer version has never come out on DVD. After it was released on VHS it became the only version you could buy. Now the opposite is true?
Things like that. I certainly hope not. No Stephen Collins or O. Simpson in OUR movie! I think you really start to tread on dangerous ground when you do that with established movies that have been around for a long time. Army of the Dead was a special case as it was still in production. But if you do that with established films, where does it end. Do you edit out Johnny Depp from the Pirates of the Caribbean because of all his domestic issues?
How about Jeffrey Jones in Amadeus? Jeffrey Rush, who was in a lot of memorable movies, has really fallen off the radar after disturbing allegations came to light. Woody Allen has been accused of some pretty serious stuff, what do you do with his movies? Roman Polanski is still wanted for statutory rape, should we throw away all his movies, even the ones he did after he went in exile? At a certain point you need to separate the artist from the work.
I can and do choose not to watch any Roman Polanski movies. Especially as his views and disrespect of young women are translated into the screen. I also have had serious qualms about any Sean Connery movies after his public statements that he thought it was ok to hit his wife.
But admit to still loving the Hunt for Red October and his perfect would be irreplaceable in that. And of course, I still love Star Trek while we know that TOS and the Berman era shows were not produced in a way that in which the female talent was treated with respect. Warning to DataLore. I think it goes both ways, on the one hand yes we have to be aware that these people have done some horrible things but on the other hand you also have to think about all the other people that have worked on these films as well and ask yourself whether its ok to dismiss the work of all the others as well.
It also borderlines on censorship so there is a slippery slope here. We woke up this morning and half the city had been without internet since in the morning. As for the movie, I love it.
Plus, the introduction to the refit is one of the best moments in all of Star Trek. The question is just how long the exclusive window on Paramount Plus will be. That was done in and its I know a lot of people never liked this movie, but to me, it was the only one of the entire movie series that made any attempt to capture that original premise of seeking out new life and boldly going where no one has gone before that Star Trek was based on.
None of the others do that, instead presenting themselves as a sequence of star wars lite war movies in which the Enterprise and its crew discovers nothing, explores nothing and invariably gets blown up by some intergalactic bad guy or another. TMP was progressive and cerebral, as good sci fi should be, and for that, it has forever been pilloried.
It was a poorly written and constructed movie. There are some scenes that excit… like when Earth is surrounded by the energy weapons almost frightening..
But what bothered me most was that the characters were so antagonistic toward each other; the fans wanted a celebration! They wanted an adventure with a crew who were happy to be back and working together. No Decker, no Ilia, no transporter accidents, etc. Perhaps they could have extended out the time between TOS and TMP to say 10 years with Kirk having really been head of Starfleet, that would have been a more interesting dynamic perhaps?
McCoy coming back drafted only to be happy to see it is Kirk again after all these years? The most significant effects improvement to me were the shots of Spock on Vulcan. Love TMP, as much as I like the rest of the movies, I wish more of them had that cerebral style instead of trying to copy Khan. Achieve that and you have greatness. Of course if was easy…. NONE of the Trek films have proven to be classics; they are all throw-aways that Paramount would never re-release into theaters as the original Star Wars trilogy was to much success.
Well, I think the Genesis Arc is as close as it came with hints of epicness and a dramatic exciting arc. It has to be possible. I think it is possible but oh is it tough given the canon of the 24th. Imagine if the original Star Trek films were suppressed and all you could see were bad redone Special Editions.
With janky s cgi. And was based on a 13 year old composite video master for laserdisc. That happened to Star Wars in And its out of print too. Fein sits in on the mixing session. Notify me of. I allow to use my email address and send notification about new comments and replies you can unsubscribe at any time. Inline Feedbacks. November 19, pm. Khan's Chihuahua. So looking forward to this.
Reply to the new kid. Oh I think the script is absolute trash, but it is a gorgeous looking movie. Reply to Bigmoviegeek. November 20, am. Reply to tony. I would be curious to see this just to see if it could redeem the film for me. Reply to TG Reply to Thorny. November 20, pm. Reply to Locutus. The visuals and sound were a lot of the problem. But the plot dragged. If I watch it again in another 20 years it will be too soon for me.
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Smyslov Registered. Posts: 7 Threads: 1 Joined: Jun Country:. Is this the longest version of TMP that was ever released? Funny how standards change, wouldn't seem especially long of a movie by today's standards. Some may say this is one movie that needs to be a lot shorter but the longer the better in my book, by far the best Trek movie ever.
I believe so! Funnily enough, I once also created a sub-2 hour fan edit of TMP and while it was certainly much snappier, it just didn't feel "right" somehow. For better or worse, the ultra-slow pace is all part of the film's identity and legacy I think.
HippieDalek Highlander Fanatic. Posts: Threads: 20 Joined: Oct Country:. Well done! Did shorter cuts of the movie myself way way back when fanediting meant using two VCRs and the pause button to accompany shorter cuts of other Trek movies and episodes.
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